The Citizens of America's Tax Plan

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The Citizens of America's Tax Plan

This group is about how American Citizens can come up with a fair tax system for America. Looking for ideas and comments to this issue, so lets build a plan together.

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Comment by Keith John Ferguson on December 3, 2014 at 8:18am

One part is if you buy American Cars they must be 75 % American made, if you put a down payment of say 2,000 bucks, you will get to take that off your gross tax bill. 100,000 is now 98,000

Comment by Keith John Ferguson on December 3, 2014 at 8:23am

plus in you have a loan on that 75 % made car, say payment of 400,00 per month  in a year is 4,800,00 you will take that off your gross tax bill, 100,000 is now 95,200,00 bucks

Comment by Keith John Ferguson on December 3, 2014 at 8:25am

say you buy a new Stove, say it was 2,000 bucks, say you pay in full, remember must be 75 % American, 2,000 bucks of the gross.

Comment by Keith John Ferguson on December 3, 2014 at 8:33am

If all things in side your home, was 75 are 100 % Made in America, TV, Stove, Dryer, Washer, dish washer, RF, Mic, Kitchen sink, the Lights  that we lite are homes with, the stool we take a crap on, if 75 plus % made in the USA all cost of your gross tax bill, this is a way to get Americans to buy American again.

Comment by Keith John Ferguson on December 3, 2014 at 8:35am

Remember the cash for the crap cars plan that was like 5 years ago, that was my plan, but they did not do as I had told them too. dumb buts.

Comment by Scolos Narbarson on December 3, 2014 at 1:29pm

One of the ideas that John Edward Kurian Jr. wrote is: "I think if we stick with a progressive tax plan then surely we can individualize where each persons breakdown is used for."

This is an interesting idea. And with present and future technology, (used with Honesty and Integrity) is possible to do.

This idea of the Individual tax payer deciding where their taxes will be used, is another possible aspect of the Participation In Governance, that a "Direct Democracy" system could entail.

Comment by Scolos Narbarson on December 3, 2014 at 1:39pm

Keith John Ferguson has shared: "One part is if you buy American Cars they must be 75 % American made, if you put a down payment of say 2,000 bucks, you will get to take that off your gross tax bill. 100,000 is now 98,000"

And, "plus in you have a loan on that 75 % made car, say payment of 400,00 per month  in a year is 4,800,00 you will take that off your gross tax bill, 100,000 is now 95,200,00 bucks"

Since the intention here is to get Americans to be loyal in the purchase of American Made Products...which is an important issue right now...I support this idea.

Comment by Sensible Sailor on December 5, 2014 at 10:38pm

12 hours a day huh, um, Kudos to you Keith. I spend 12 hours a day doing other stuff...

Comment by Sensible Sailor on December 5, 2014 at 10:40pm

Before you go back to the drawing board and spend another 12 hours a day for a week coming up with specific tax brackets and assorted deductibles, credits, etc; keep in mind that we are at the beginning of formulating a tax plan. You’re essentially planning for what this tax baby’s degree in college is going to be while the baby is still gestating in Mama Citizen’s belly.

Before we get to tax brackets, we have to agree on how much the govt needs to spend to operate, then we’ll know how large the pie is and can debate the size of everybody’s slice and what methods we’ll use to obtain the money (income, sales, dividends, VAT, etc).

Let’s use this forum to come up with basic ideas of what tax system we’ll use and what we’d want to toss out from our current system. We can fine tune as the details and opinions come together. This will also allow for others to contribute and hopefully prevent just one person from feeling obligated to work 12 hours a day on an extremely vast and complex issue that intertwines all facets of government.

Comment by Sensible Sailor on December 5, 2014 at 10:50pm

For instance:

  • I am for a progressive tax system in some form.
  • I am against a flat tax.
  • I am open to the idea of a national VAT assessment.
    • I think it should differ from a sales tax in that the price should be factored in to the listed price and the actual tax be paid by corporations. (ie I go to the store and buy a $1 candy bar, I pay 1$. The parent company of the store pays anywhere from 1-10 cents based on the agreed upon tax percentage.)
  • I am for taxing dividends, but think it should be done differently than it is now.

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