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Protect the United States Constitution

Join this group if you want to send lawmakers a message, not to change the Constitution of the United States of America.

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Comment by Bob Fountaine on June 23, 2012 at 8:08pm

Keith I believe it would take a vote of the people to change the constitution.  Having said that I would not put anything past our government to float anything past us. Of course in our best interest. Yea, right!

I think for "We The People",  it in our best interest to oust the do nothing parties we have sent to Washington.  Seeing how the two power parties can not work together we must do something about it.  Our Great Nation is going down the tubes if we allow Washington to continue down the path of debit and apathy. 

I thought this was starting to happen in the past mid-term elections.  I was very surprised when the election results were read and many of the Old Guard won re-election.  This is where we must start to return the good life back to the middle class.

I will join any movement to ensure our government truly represents "We The People".  Other countries have started  doing whatever it takes to overthrow oppressive leaders and it is time we do the same.  Many lives have been shed in these movements, our votes can do this peacefully.

We have the right to vote. The first thing we need is leadership with a clear path and the people behind it.  This year we had the sit-in movements in many or our cities.  The problem appears that there was no platform for these people only a singular ax to grind.  

Let's unify the people, the internet is a great starting point. 

Comment by Citoyen David on June 23, 2012 at 8:35pm

Citizen Fountaine expressed it all and very well too.

I am under the opinion that the original Articles (1 thru 10) of the U.S. Constitution cannot be altered.  The Bill of Rights, i.e. Amendments, however can be created or appealed as so designed by the Framers for the betterment of the Republic.  I support the stance that the original Articles cannot be changed for any reason. It is the only document so far created in the civilized world which is based upon Common Rights of an individual and that such expression of Freedom and Liberty is not controlled solely by a government.

However, for this Republic to bring truth and justice to bear on oppression of these rights by external or internal political or religious dogma forces, periodical adjustments to Amendments needs to be assured. Our Founding Father’s all agreed upon that ideal and would never have thought otherwise. In truth that initial phrase “We the People” is sufficient as long as Common Rights is common sense would be utilized to read that miraculous worded statement.

Majority of the people are angry and that could make them go mad and a Helter Skelter type of revolt could happen.  It would be a regin of terror is bad that the French Revolution is a footnote. 

A political ideal and back to the basic idea for the pople is needed.  I hope the Citizens Party of the past and today can bring some sense to it all and save the U.S. Constituion of Our Republic.

 

Thanks for the allowing me to comment.

Comment by Scolos Narbarson on June 23, 2012 at 11:34pm

It is good to see you here again Keith John Ferguson. My gratitude to you for developing this "Protect The United States Constitution" Citizen Party Group. I believe it is well intended and of vital importance to "We The People".

Your mission statement, that included : "...send lawmakers a message, not to change the Constitution of the United States of America." is worthy of all We The People's consideration. Any change to this mighty document, should be done by 'MOST" of Us and not just by the few in Congress. I would worry about any changes they would make.

However, it has been my opinion, that Our Constitution should and could be changed by Us; a "well educated and dedicated" Majority Of The People, in a Direct Democracy Process. The greater the Majority, the Better.

Certain clarifications, within Our Constitution, should be made. Some additions might be welcomed. We The People should decide. Some Articles and Amendments could be improved by adjustment and removal. But only by the decision of Most Of Us.

Right now, "We" are not strong enough, in terms of dedicated Citizen participation and certain kinds of knowledge, to achieve this improvement in Our Constitution.

But, it would not hurt to grow, as Individual Good Citizens, in these needed abilities and practice the arts of this process. Such would be a Good expression of True Citizenship. This group affords Us the opportunity to exercise this important activity. but, of course, that is up to you, as the founder of this group...and as the members of this group.

Presently, I am, "slowly", studying Our Constitution. In a class conducted once a month in Angels Camp, California. It works off of a really interesting book about the Constitution called "The Ten Thousand Year Leap" which is offered by a "Right Wing Group", if you will, called the "National Center For Constitutional Studies"

National Center For Constitutional Studies at http://www.nccs.net

While the "NCCS", is an organization of the "Conservative Right", it nevertheless, (in my opinion), offers much insight to the principles and reasons and history behind Our Constitution. Is worthy of Our Consideration, IF, We were to undertake self education in this matter. But, of course, there are other approaches from other "sectors" of Our Diverse Nation, no doubt also worthy of study, that We could and should include in Our Self Education as True American Citizens.

I thank Mr. Fountaine and Mr. David for their worthy communications here. I will watch with interest further activity in this new group of The Citizens Party.

Respectfully, Daniel Penisten  Third Party and Direct Democracy Advocate

Comment by Citoyen David on May 21, 2015 at 1:38pm

Liberty, Equality and Fraternity within our Republic was be guarded against all who which to change the Constitution. There can only be one entity that controls our Republic and that is WE the People.  No political party, no religious dogma, no special interest and no rich person has the right to control the citizenry.  Whatever it takes to stop them, must be our first priority. 

Comment by Scolos Narbarson on May 21, 2015 at 1:43pm

What if "We The American People" want to change Our Constitution?

Comment by Scolos Narbarson on May 21, 2015 at 2:22pm

Now your talking Hunter Wayne Crow. Getting into specific changes to Our Constitution.

But, maybe We should take this discussion to its own "Group"?

This Group is for Protecting the United States Constitution. I assume this means standing by it as is.

Changes are not part of this group's topic.

Comment by Citoyen David on May 22, 2015 at 11:44am

It was done once before in the name of protecting the citizenry called the 18th Amendment. Then finally repealed, i.e. the 21st Amendment.  When special interest group attempts to unsecure the Liberty and Equality of the people, even by majority, the Cause of our Republic is bastardized. WE the People is boiled down to the basic Liberty, Equality and Fraternity. These three elements must be the prerequisites for future reference.  When does the Constitution need to be changed? When our society has developed into a society that guards itself from despotic reactionary legislation and can improve the existing document.  Improvement?  The guarantee of the basic Cause of our Revolution.  The Right (Liberty) to have freedom (Equality) for all (Fraternity).

Comment by Scolos Narbarson on May 22, 2015 at 12:43pm

Well said, Citoyen David.

You shared: "...basic Liberty, Equality and Fraternity. These three elements must be the prerequisites for future reference."

I agree. We The American People need education and much deliberation about these important items of Our Rights. We need clearer thoughts, with more controlled emotion, regarding these things.

How much "Liberty". What practice of Liberty, serves Our Embracing of it best? At what point does Liberty begin to become its opposite?

"Equal" to what and who? If its "Equal Opportunity" We should have, how is this expedited and expressed in Our Constitution.

"Fraternity"? To "Fraternize"? Communicate? Include as many viewpoints as possible? The More that works on this improvement the better?

I have no doubt, that We can and should "improve" Our Constitution.

I hope to see you in Hunter Wayne Crow's new group site.

Comment by Michael Thompson on May 22, 2015 at 3:43pm

Hunter (and everyone else),

We are no longer approving new groups on this website. After we move over to our new website, we will resume creating/approving new groups. I would suggest that you use the discussion feature WITHIN this group to post the topic there. 

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