Issue - Our Long Term Unemployed. - Citizens Party2024-03-28T19:22:26Zhttp://www.votecitizens.org/forum/topics/issue-our-long-term?commentId=6348963%3AComment%3A18938&xg_source=activity&feed=yes&xn_auth=noWould these coins have the re…tag:www.votecitizens.org,2014-11-13:6348963:Comment:621332014-11-13T18:53:10.033ZScolos Narbarsonhttp://www.votecitizens.org/profile/ScolosNarbarson
<p>Would these coins have the real value, struck on them, declared, endorsed and backed by We The American People ?</p>
<p>Would these coins have the real value, struck on them, declared, endorsed and backed by We The American People ?</p> "I'm making a layman's versio…tag:www.votecitizens.org,2014-11-13:6348963:Comment:619972014-11-13T18:47:31.054ZScolos Narbarsonhttp://www.votecitizens.org/profile/ScolosNarbarson
<p><strong>"I'm making a layman's version of it, so the verbiage is not so much over everyone's head!"</strong></p>
<p>A very Good thing, this.</p>
<p><strong>"I'm making a layman's version of it, so the verbiage is not so much over everyone's head!"</strong></p>
<p>A very Good thing, this.</p> I AM upset about the "real de…tag:www.votecitizens.org,2014-11-13:6348963:Comment:620382014-11-13T18:24:17.674ZScolos Narbarsonhttp://www.votecitizens.org/profile/ScolosNarbarson
<p>I AM upset about the "real deal" part of this situation.</p>
<p>I am one of them "99'rs", but, because of my age (56 I think) I was lucky enough to qualify for early Social Security benefits. Thanks to the blessings of Our Social Security program I escaped the "grind" of trying to find work in an increasingly monopoly corporate dominated world. Up to that moment, I usually had no problem landing some kind of employment. My warehousing skills (bills of lading, order filling, shipping, and…</p>
<p>I AM upset about the "real deal" part of this situation.</p>
<p>I am one of them "99'rs", but, because of my age (56 I think) I was lucky enough to qualify for early Social Security benefits. Thanks to the blessings of Our Social Security program I escaped the "grind" of trying to find work in an increasingly monopoly corporate dominated world. Up to that moment, I usually had no problem landing some kind of employment. My warehousing skills (bills of lading, order filling, shipping, and forklift operation) were in some demand, somewhere. I had quit my last job with a computer company (because of increasing friction with the "boss"...who seemed to be trying to get people to quit for "downsizing" purposes...the market was softening...sales were dropping) and then discovered that the only positions available were with lower paying "Temporary Services". The companies were not hiring directly in order to not have to deal with withholding, pension and medical programs and wanted it to be easier to lay off work force and bring them on again to handle surges in sales. Then, suddenly, I realized that no one was hiring Workers of my age group. (56)</p>
<p>So...I opted for a modest income from Social Security instead of no income as a job seeker. I used my new free time to work on projects dear to me, that I would like to finish before I die.</p>
<p>Anyway. Lisa Hagen has opened up this important Citizens Party (and Our Nation) issue in the above well written discussion article. She has focused on the part of the unemployed that had jobs and are still willing to work. These, my heart goes out to. They should be helped in ways strong enough to prevent them from losing the Homes they started to buy and the savings they had managed to accumulate for Better Futures.</p>
<p>They need to be "held" until We, as True Citizens of America, can find the ways and means to again provide Good Employment for them.</p>
<p>I would support any bill that moves toward this supportive position. (unless it is adulterated with earmarks and pork) We need to insist on clean single issue bills and proposals.</p>
<p>I really don't think the business world (the corporate world) is interested in Good employment of the American Worker. They show every sign of caring less. So, I see it as up to government and an alternate People built economic sector to provide new opportunities for prosperity. Its time to step away from the corporate world and all its injustices.</p>
<p>But, I have to concede that there just might be a few corporations that are not of the monopoly kind and are Truly Good to their Workers. Couldn't name any though. These, if they exist, can be part of Our New America.</p>
<p>I really believe the government should Truly be of The People, for The People and BY The People.</p>
<p>I believe co-ops and worker owned businesses are key strong points to the building of Our New Economy.</p>
<p>Thank you Lisa Hagen, for opening this discussion sting, where I could share some of my feelings and thoughts, in response to your concerns.</p> Just read the ENTIRE plan and…tag:www.votecitizens.org,2011-10-16:6348963:Comment:254682011-10-16T01:00:58.228ZJ L Mealerhttp://www.votecitizens.org/profile/JLMealer
<p>Just read the ENTIRE plan and you will change you mind.</p>
<p>It's about bring wealth back into circulation (creating American jobs, business expansion, etc...) and drop kicking the Fed Res. who own Congress. There is no new cost for minting coins that are already being minted, simply the value placed on such coins with banked precious metals where the coins intrinsic value is represented on a certificate.</p>
<p>If you had read the plans (rather than my brief notes), you would know that…</p>
<p>Just read the ENTIRE plan and you will change you mind.</p>
<p>It's about bring wealth back into circulation (creating American jobs, business expansion, etc...) and drop kicking the Fed Res. who own Congress. There is no new cost for minting coins that are already being minted, simply the value placed on such coins with banked precious metals where the coins intrinsic value is represented on a certificate.</p>
<p>If you had read the plans (rather than my brief notes), you would know that the coins are simply a leverage that is Constitutionally sound to control bribery, corruption, etc... In fact, it is THE ONLY VIABLE plan.. because the Fed can be shut down (by law and at the US' option IF Congress and POTUS were not owned by the Fed Res). We need to get rid of the USURY of the FRN.</p>
<p>The melted down pot metal would simply be a snub for the bad guys. ONE TIME USE coins to clear up all debts goes a long way. No rules say these coins need to be fancy.. Technically a slug or washer would suffice provided Congress gave them value (and they would once under a National Security Threat... Or go to Guantanamo for their past bribes and corruption and treason against the USA)</p>
<p><a href="http://mealer2012.com" target="_blank">http://mealer2012.com</a></p> The only problem I see with y…tag:www.votecitizens.org,2011-10-15:6348963:Comment:254442011-10-15T14:00:12.205ZTerence Straithttp://www.votecitizens.org/profile/TerenceStrait
<p>The only problem I see with your solution of minting high denomination coins is that it is wholly unnecessary. Our economy is entirely fictional, as demonstrated by the Fed creating trillions of dollars out of nothing. They did this not by printing money, but simply by altering balance sheets on a computer. If the federal reserve act is repealed as unconstitutional, control of the national money supply can revert to the federal government, where it belongs. There is already plenty of hard…</p>
<p>The only problem I see with your solution of minting high denomination coins is that it is wholly unnecessary. Our economy is entirely fictional, as demonstrated by the Fed creating trillions of dollars out of nothing. They did this not by printing money, but simply by altering balance sheets on a computer. If the federal reserve act is repealed as unconstitutional, control of the national money supply can revert to the federal government, where it belongs. There is already plenty of hard currency in circulation, and no real reason to add to it. "Melted down pot metal" may be cheap, but there is the cost of actually designing and making the mint for them, which is wasted money on such a limited run. Electrons are free. Additionally, once control of the money supply has reverted to the federal government, taxation becomes frivolous, and necessary only to combat inflation and control the total amount of wealth in the system. Spending was limited with a gold and silver backed economy, because there was a fixed amount of both metals available. This is no longer an issue, and with the understanding that we live in a fictional economy, spending becomes simply a way of indicating priorities.</p> Hiram!! You positively hit t…tag:www.votecitizens.org,2011-10-15:6348963:Comment:251572011-10-15T02:47:46.378ZJason M. Bowmanhttp://www.votecitizens.org/profile/JasonMBowman
<p> Hiram!! You positively hit the nail on the head!! WE MUST INVEST IN EDUCATION!!!!!!!!!!! </p>
<p> Hiram!! You positively hit the nail on the head!! WE MUST INVEST IN EDUCATION!!!!!!!!!!! </p> The Trillion Dollar coins (I…tag:www.votecitizens.org,2011-08-14:6348963:Comment:189392011-08-14T06:05:46.812ZJ L Mealerhttp://www.votecitizens.org/profile/JLMealer
<p>The Trillion Dollar coins <em>(I like to call it the Mealer Coin, because the actual minting of the coin would probably cost me my life, especially if I was ever given the opportunity to toss a few at our enemy debt holders or the Fed),</em> could technically be minted out of <span style="text-decoration: underline;">'melted down pot metal'</span> or better yet, a <span style="text-decoration: underline;">silver alloy with a stripe of copper running through it or as the face and eagle emblem…</span></p>
<p>The Trillion Dollar coins <em>(I like to call it the Mealer Coin, because the actual minting of the coin would probably cost me my life, especially if I was ever given the opportunity to toss a few at our enemy debt holders or the Fed),</em> could technically be minted out of <span style="text-decoration: underline;">'melted down pot metal'</span> or better yet, a <span style="text-decoration: underline;">silver alloy with a stripe of copper running through it or as the face and eagle emblem side of the coin</span>. The main points being that Congress through the National Emergency declaration made by the POTUS makes it a one time use coin.<br/><br/>Just the idea of the coins being in existence will rally Wall Street and add that to the <a href="http://mealer2012.com/mealer-economic-initiative/" target="_blank">http://mealer2012.com/mealer-economic-initiative/</a> and we have a HUGE rally of investors bringing their cash back into the USA for investments (keeping in mind that their offshore and Swiss accounts can technically be seized due to the "POTUS Declared Threat of National Security"... It an ALL WIN situation and the Fed Res is the only group that would lose their usury, but they've ruined America enough already and it's time to turn the tables.</p>
<p>IF the EPA were an honest organization and not full of crooked people working against the small business owners while promoting ONLY the large conglomerates they would be worth keeping. The EPA employees and M.O. would be revamped and made into an honest group, as I agree, toxic dumps are a bad thing! Although only the big conglomerates get away with it, while we can barely get away with tossing a used cell phone or battery in the garbage.</p>
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<p>My Economic Initiative (which has been updated from the older plan covers the education and paid training issues very well. Please check into it. My TRIO of plans must be put into play simultaneously or we wind up with pitfalls and such... Check out the DRUG solution while you're at it!</p>
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<p>JL Mealer</p>
<p>MEALER 2012</p>
<p><a href="http://mealer2012.com" target="_blank">http://mealer2012.com</a></p> Hiram, Please take a look at …tag:www.votecitizens.org,2011-08-14:6348963:Comment:189382011-08-14T05:49:10.589ZJ L Mealerhttp://www.votecitizens.org/profile/JLMealer
<p>Hiram, <br></br>Please take a look at <a href="http://mealer2012.com/mealer-economic-initiative/" target="_blank">http://mealer2012.com/mealer-economic-initiative/</a> which is a fairly detailed version of how (with the right non-politician POTUS in 2012) we can have the corporations and other new businesses pay for training and schooling (IE. Education, for those of us already out of school and climbing or over the hill, so to speak).</p>
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<p>This idea has been in front of a variety of…</p>
<p>Hiram, <br/>Please take a look at <a href="http://mealer2012.com/mealer-economic-initiative/" target="_blank">http://mealer2012.com/mealer-economic-initiative/</a> which is a fairly detailed version of how (with the right non-politician POTUS in 2012) we can have the corporations and other new businesses pay for training and schooling (IE. Education, for those of us already out of school and climbing or over the hill, so to speak).</p>
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<p>This idea has been in front of a variety of big time politicians over the years, but they scoff at it because they can't make a lobbyist dollar from it.</p>
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<p>MEALER 2012</p>
<p>JL Mealer</p> The "Mealer Economic Plan" is…tag:www.votecitizens.org,2011-08-13:6348963:Comment:186702011-08-13T23:48:00.756ZScolos Narbarsonhttp://www.votecitizens.org/profile/ScolosNarbarson
<p>The "Mealer Economic Plan" is mighty interesting too. What metal should We use for the trillions of dollar coins? Wouldn't be gold. Couldn't even see a dollars worth of gold...at today's prices.</p>
<p>And Good On You Sir for your ambition to "...force a slice of common decency into which ever candidate actually wins the presidency."May you successfully strike a harmonious chord in their Soul.</p>
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<p>The "Mealer Economic Plan" is mighty interesting too. What metal should We use for the trillions of dollar coins? Wouldn't be gold. Couldn't even see a dollars worth of gold...at today's prices.</p>
<p>And Good On You Sir for your ambition to "...force a slice of common decency into which ever candidate actually wins the presidency."May you successfully strike a harmonious chord in their Soul.</p>
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<p><font color="#000000"><font face="Times New Roman, serif"><font size="3"><strong>"US Debt holders, especially those who are proudly and defiantly touting above our heads, the fact that America has been wholly mismanaged and controlled by transnational conglomerates."</strong> ...which include Our Own White Collar Criminals.<img src="http://www.bkserv.net/images/Grin.gif"/></font></font></font></p>
<p><strong><font color="#000000"><font face="Times New Roman, serif"><font size="3">"The FDA, EPA and FTC would be put on Port-a-Jon raw sewage-siphoning duty until they can become legitimate organizations and void of the drug and food industries lobbyist funds."</font></font></font></strong></p>
<p><font color="#000000"><font face="Times New Roman, serif"><font size="3">I wasn't aware of this connection. Lobbyist funds as a tool for certain industries to get their way. Hmmm...some folks think the EPA does too much, while others don't think they do enough. Personally, I think the "EPA" concept is a necessary and good one.</font></font></font> <font color="#000000"><font face="Times New Roman, serif"><font size="3">I hate the thought and actuality of toxic waste dumps.</font></font></font><strong><font color="#000000"><font face="Times New Roman, serif"><font size="3"><br/></font></font></font></strong></p> I totally agree with Hiram Ma…tag:www.votecitizens.org,2011-08-13:6348963:Comment:188352011-08-13T23:28:05.087ZScolos Narbarsonhttp://www.votecitizens.org/profile/ScolosNarbarson
<p>I totally agree with Hiram Mariner about "education, education, education..." for Our American Workers.</p>
<p>I totally agree with Hiram Mariner about "education, education, education..." for Our American Workers.</p>